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Blog Image In 2005, J. B. Olson was only dreaming about real estate. Today, he owns 11 residential properties in and around Minneapolis. In this conversation with Trump University’s President Michael Sexton, J. B. tells us about where his real estate dreams are now - and where they are going.

Michael Sexton: What were you doing before you started investing in real estate?

J. B. Olson: I taught elementary physical education for eight years! And that was a few years longer than I should have, because way back in 2000, I read Robert Kiyosaki’s book Rich Dad, Poor Dad and I got it. I understood it, I believed in everything in there. But it still took me another five years to get the courage to break out of my comfort zone and get going.

Within myself, I always knew I could do it. But even with confidence, I needed somebody to help me, to point me in the right direction. I was searching, doing a lot of research online in those years, but I was not taking action.

I was attracted to various mentorship programs. When I learned that Donald Trump had launched his Real Estate Investor Training Program, I was very interested. It took me another five to six months before I expressed interest in the program. Trump University contacted me, I went through the interview process, and here I am today.

MS: Are you still teaching?

JBO: No, no. I haven’t been teaching for two years now.

MS: Can you pinpoint some of the skills you needed to get your start?

JBO: I definitely needed to learn how to analyze deals, how to pick them apart and look at both sides.

MS: What about motivation - getting out of that “comfort zone” you described?

JBO: It was great that every week, I was given action steps that I had to complete. I couldn’t hide. Each week, I had to report back. Did I indeed do my homework?

In the beginning, some of the work was theoretical, as in, “Read Secton I.” But then the assignments quickly became, “I want you to go look at 10 properties this week,” or even, “Look at 15 properties and make 10 offers.” So the homework turned out to be action steps.

As I said, I needed someone to point me in the right direction. And after the completion of the coaching part, I felt very confident. That gave me the ability to acquire a lot more property since.

MS: Did you have substantial financial resources available before you started in real estate?

JBO: I had a small nest egg. I had some stocks and a little bit of equity in my primary residence to help me acquire my first properties. But overall, not a whole lot.

MS: What kinds of properties are you working with?

JBO: I am strictly in residential properties right now. And right now, I have 11 properties. At one point, I had 12, but I have sold one of them. My current holdings are four condos, three town homes and four single-family residences. My immediate focus is to continue to build up my residential portfolio. My long-range plan is to move into commercial properties.

MS: Did the properties require renovation?

JBO: Two of them did. I did buy one rehab property while I was still in the program. But with the market going flat, I have come to adopt a buy and hold strategy. I mean, this is the best time to buy. I did buy one property on a construction loan. Then I renovated and refinanced it. That was a nice way of buying a property with no money down that I learned.

MS: That’s spectacular.

JBO: Yeah!

MS: Do you use a management company to maintain your properties, find tenants and handle the other details?

JBO: No. I manage it all myself.

MS: Do you have employees? Do you work out of your home?

JBO: I work out of my home. Eventually, I may look at adding an assistant. As I acquire more properties, some of the workload of managing them will begin to take me away from making deals and acquiring more property. So I am going to look at hiring an assistant for that reason.

MS: What do you see next? As you mentioned, commercial real estate?

JBO: I will continue to acquire more residential properties. Because of the number of properties I own and the way the lending market has tightened up considerably, I will do more creative deals so I can continue to keep my pace going. I will be looking at doing deals with lease options, contract for deed (or subject to). I will continue to build up a residential portfolio for 2007 and 2008, and I will then be looking more at commercial properties.

MS: So that is a terrific amount of progress in just a few short years. Congratulations.

JBO: I am 34. I have many years of real estate investing ahead. I tell everybody, the investment I made in the Trump University has paid more than dividends. It was instrumental in getting my company going.

I also know that you have to be a lifelong learner. I’ve had a number of people ask me, “What are you doing? I want to sit down and have a cup of coffee and talk with you.”

Because I have a background in teaching, I also want to become more of a mentor and a coach when it comes to real estate investing. I’m starting the groundwork for that right now.

Your average person who is out there walking down the street right now probably thinks they can’t do this. But they can! They just don’t have the knowledge or the tools.

Michael Sexton is President of Trump University.

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7 Comments

[-] Posted by Larry Gessner on 03/16/2007 8:39 AM
Michael,

This is exactly what I have known in my heart about Trump University. The tools and knowledge available here are like a diamond in the ruff. This is the kind of feedback that people are looking for everyday on the Trump University Discussion boards. Here is JB, who knew in his heart that this is what he loved to do, but was afraid and unsure about taking that next step. Trump University gave him the tools and knowledge to be successful and it sure looks like he is well on his way. I hope we get to hear more from him and others who have taken that next step and now wonder why they had not done it sooner. I think that JB is living proof that anyone who will take the time and invest in themselves through Trump University will be a winner. This is what Mr. Trump has been telling us all along, and now we have heard it from someone who is living the dream.
[-] Posted by lightwayvez on 03/16/2007 9:36 AM
I can't remember how old I was when I began my first job in real estate. It would have been back in elementary school.

Computers were not what they are today, and so manually I had to correlate the reems of binders listing properties for sale. Inbetween the binders I can't count the envelopes I stuffed with pamplets and fliers to advertise for my boss. I then hand delivered most into each mailbox. I did this instead of a babysitting job until I was of age to be employed.

On the aside to complement this position I helped build many Welcome Wagon baskets. That was my favorite task as a child. All the bright colors and complementary toys were fun to present and wrap for new comers to the neighborhood.

Pity this application has been lost over the years. People just don't want to market products like they use to. Most complementary products cut corners these days and most add to the compost heap instead of actually finding a use in the home.

So while Mr Olsen you are looking to the future, and what you might define as your support staff, here in are just some simple well known facts I learned as a child. There is always room for more.
[-] Posted by member1541697 on 03/16/2007 11:08 AM
Knowing JB through Mike Huey's Legacy Club in Minneapolis, a local real estate investment group, I have to say this is not only a true story but an absolute inspiration to all investors. Congrats JB and keep up the great work. See you at the next meeting.

Chris Tatro, Minneapolis MN
Real Estate Investor
[-] Posted by Daniela -Madrid on 03/17/2007 12:42 AM
Mr. Olson,

congratulation about looking back and see that you have do it!! in 2005!
the big leap, with the right Teacher! is nice to see that dreams transform into reality, yes is stimulating!
is very early in the morning and thinking about the big interview and
to avoid the traps of dot.com I mean be informed to be able to answer at the super sales and super marketers teacher.
to create a cp brand internationally, it is possible by create a Corporate bonds, a cascading waterfalle effect just once in known now history
was made and can be applyed as risky it is to the Peace process....into a already stepped road application..name it 2-nd hand (as copywritter method I mean) well, the only question it is, what will prevail into a negotiation , preferably face to face, the personal goals or the professional one? just that fine balance which today just think about the undone thiongs in life generally, how can the right person be cared during a long term negotiation process, each day manage the challenges of a win win negotiation, which perhaps is easyer to realize it, sure, but to maintain it mean approach.I see and yield for advice the sooner the better, tools and knowledge in place, it is so, time and surroundings pressure..too high believe me, each delay can be...rare)
thank you in advance, i see now and hope that nt too late.
thanks and succes further!
Daniela
[-] Posted by user18785 on 03/20/2007 5:47 PM
I would like to congratulate J.B. on his motivation to acquire property. However, I do so with some trepidation.

I fear that one of the main lessons, if not the most important lesson, in investing may be ignored entirely from J.B. and others like him. That lesson is timing.

The residential real estate market has seen gains over the last eight years that surpassed everyones expectations. If J.B. purchased these homes in 2005, he may just well have purchased them at the height of the market cycle. Granted he may be ok if the rents received cover all expenses, (at the loans fully amortized rate). But the prospects of seeing any appreciation are slim at best.

Always be aware of market cycles and timing. Don`t buy without knowing if the rents fully cover your expenses with a fixed rate, fully amortized loan.

Matt
[-] Posted by member1517120 on 04/11/2007 3:43 PM
Michael,

I happen to feel that investments in rental properties are the best and if you manage them yourself ...to your credit as it is time consuming.

The equity will come and when it does, take it and reinvest it..don't let it be dead equity and just sit there...put it to work..and let's hope you have interest only loans........

Interested in 12% returns on your equity?

Let me tell you how..... beingthebank@comcast.net

Private Bank Investor
[-] Posted by Fifth Wave on 03/13/2008 10:44 PM
This is a great story.

I have invested in my first house and it is now for sale. I have equity in it and I plan to realize it by flipping it. In this story, JBO has accumulated 11 properties and sold 1.

I eventually see myself building a portfolio of properties that can provide a cash flow but I think I first have to flip for a while.

How could you build your portfolio to 11 homes only selling 1 and your original equity? I can't keep buying more properties until I sell this one.

Any commentary is appreciated at diegoarevalo@wisemug.com

Diego Arevalo
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