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Although it’s become one of my signatures, firing people is not something I enjoy doing. In reality, I’d rather hire really great employees in the first place so that firing them is something I never plan on doing.

But in reality, managers are often placed in tough situations when they have to let underperforming employees go. Since most people don’t have the benefit of a boardroom and cameras following their staff around, it’s not always easy to know what to say or how to do it. So let me offer some tips.

First, never fire someone when you’re angry or when other workers are present. Don’t let an employee bait you into losing your temper. If you feel yourself getting angry, immediately walk away and cool down. When you are completely composed, discuss the situation with someone who can give you objective advice. Develop a plan on how to proceed and continue reviewing it with an attorney.

Never blow up in front of your employees. When you’re displeased with a worker, discuss your feelings with him or her privately, not in a public area where other employees might watch or overhear. If you’re concerned about meeting alone with the employee, have another member of your staff sit in. Meet in a neutral area - not your office - so you can get up and leave.

At termination meetings, never get drawn into debates or arguments. Be civil, polite and businesslike. Expect the employee to be upset, so be direct and courteous, and give the employee an opportunity to speak.

Fortunately, I seem to attract people who like to work hard and get a sense of achievements from their efforts. Most of the people I’ve fired knew they weren’t performing to a satisfactory level, and I’ve had very few problems in that area. I’m demanding but fair, and they know it.

Donald J. Trump is Chairman of Trump University.

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[-] Posted by member1542774 on 03/18/2007 11:24 PM
Mr. Trump,

My comment is in regards to the Apprentice episode that aired on March 18th, 2007, as well as this topic. My opinion is that Christine should have been fired. I would love to hear your thoughts of my perception versus your decision.

It is my feeling that Christine purposely placed the fine woman who had gotten fired into, what I would call a firing hole. She was placed in the position that she would be a lack lusting performer. Accepting failure of the project with the exchange of saving her position on the show & not putting the proper people in the right place. Knowing her accent may interfere with sending a clear message.

Do you consider that this was the case & decided to keep Christine because she played the game better at the sacrifice of being a team player and doing an overall better job on the project?

Best regards,
Barry Weisinger
[-] Posted by member1542880 on 03/19/2007 2:48 AM
I have never had the misfortune of terminating a co-workers position, but I have on several occasions been the go to guy for an employer to get an objective opinion. I was always fair and objective to the situation and would only give an opinion if I was privy to all the facts, and never on speculation. After being part of this process I certainly do not envy those who have to make the call. I’ve seen how hard it has been for some to say the words "you’re fired", but for all it is a decision they realize must be made in order to retain a steady forward of productivity, success and dedication by all to the company. I guess that’s what it boils down to in the end.

If and when I am faced with such a choice I will carry on the meeting of trust and hope that someone would support me it what is one of the hardest decision an employer has to make.

Jason Seelmann
- Calgary, Canada
[-] Posted by DebbieDee on 03/19/2007 4:05 AM
Thank you, Mr.Trump of your great advice! Your point is very valuable to all readers of your site!
[-] Posted by member1516955 on 03/19/2007 10:26 AM
Ironically, the techniques outlined also apply, and work very well, when parenting.
[-] Posted by Ken Flowers on 03/19/2007 1:05 PM
I'm glad to see you giving measured, sound advice about firing. There are so many people who admire and look to emulate you. When all they see is how you fire people on The Apprentice, they get a false impression of what to emulate. This good advice is a nice reality check to balance the odd messages of a television show.

Ken Flowers
www.kflowers.blogspot.com
[-] Posted by member1499085 on 03/19/2007 1:36 PM
Mr. Trump,

I think you provided us with excellent advice on firing an employee if the situation comes up. Personally, I never had to fire anyone or have I ever been fired. I have done two of the things you mentioned in yout article a few times in my air force career. First as a supervisor/manager, when a subordinate of mine was not meeting standards or his/her work performance was below average, I would always counsel that individual in private away from other personnel. Secondly, when I was frustrated or upset about something, I never allowed my troops see me upset because I knew this could have a negative impact on my troops. Hopefully, others will follow your advice.......rickyl
[-] Posted by member1489291 on 03/19/2007 6:11 PM
Dear Mr. Trump,
I saw your interview with Wolf Blitzer. I thought it was great and some of those you spoke of need to HEAR the words you are so famous for!
You have strong opinions based upon facts and this is what people need to hear.
Your expertise, with business and money, is truly an expertise our government and future elected officials should listen closely to.
I am wondering if you have ANY opinion on the Leo Wanta (story), and all the related info, involving this situation that is everywhere on the internet. Many of the sites, and especially those from overseas, are credible sites. One, in particular, is: www.worldreports.org. Christopher Story is a journalist who has been around for a long time. Other sites: : www.thechiefblogspot.com, www.ahrc.com.... There are really a lot of sites. Do a simple google search and you will come up with all the related sites.
If , in fact, these trillions of dollars, ($27.5 trillion, some say), is due back to the USA, why are we not taking it back, and if these funds do come back to the USA, can they be used to help invest in America? American jobs, education of our American youth, etc.
I, and others, will greatly appreciate your thoughts. Best wishes and thank you.
[-] Posted by user89187 on 03/19/2007 8:25 PM
That's perfect!
[-] Posted by member1543762 on 03/20/2007 10:54 AM
I fired Trump last night. I was watching him with interest on The Big Idea (I think that's the name) until he decided to pull a Rosie and bash our president. I just can't understand why celebrities feel a need to shove their political comments down our throats when, in reality, they know no more than we do and maybe even less.

I was very disappointed as I had a lot of respect for Mr. Trump and was behind him when he was battling Rosie - but it looks like they are 2 peas in a pod. Even if you don't like our president or agree with him, bashing him is not an option. Had either of them did so to Saddam when he was ruling - they wouldn't be around today.

I pointed to him on the t.v. and said "You're Fired!"
[-] Posted by member1489291 on 03/20/2007 11:32 AM
Help me here, please! Whats perfect? Is this infromation, posted above, credible? If so, what are everyday Americans supposed to do about it?
Thank you.
[-] Posted by member1325686 on 03/20/2007 2:20 PM
Last week on the apprentice you did have a tough choice to make.
The office I work in has managers all over who's only concern is to cover their assets. You should not have fired muna, she was put in a tough position and the project manager who put her there knew exactly what she was doing. The PM stated herself much earlier in the show that she couldnt stand her. Based on the film the ladies were watching she should have made an exective decision to do that part herself(the pm) but the pm was off doing something else. Christine should have been fired. I disagreed with you this time just like I totally disagreed when you fired tanna in a previous season. She was the best candidate you had.
She was tough, and wouldnt take any crap, just like you.
[-] Posted by member1325686 on 03/20/2007 2:25 PM
Last week on the apprentice you did have a tough choice to make.
The office I work in has managers all over who's only concern is to cover their assets. You should not have fired muna, she was put in a tough position and the project manager who put her there knew exactly what she was doing. The PM stated herself much earlier in the show that she couldnt stand her. Based on the film the ladies were watching she should have made an exective decision to do that part herself(the pm) but the pm was off doing something else. Christine should have been fired. I disagreed with you this time just like I totally disagreed when you fired tanna in a previous season. She was the best candidate you had.
She was tough, and wouldnt take any crap, just like you.
[-] Posted by user21669 on 03/20/2007 5:51 PM
Regarding the March 18th episode. I agree with Barry, but for different reasons.

Christine should have been fired because she did not manage the project well. First she let Muna talk her out of her original, correct, decision to have her work behind the scenes as a detail person--and not before the cameras. A real leader sticks to their guns! She took the easy way out to avoid conflict.

Secondly, Christine was not there to oversee the production! She was out buying lipstick with Angela. Clearly, she did not need to do this and should have been overseeing the video! Then, as Muna stated, she didn't review the tape when she finally arrived at the video shoot. Had she done this she would have seen the problem earlier, when it probably could have been resolved.

Christine made two bad decisions, Muna made none--at least not until she got in the boardroom. Christine should have been fired, she had more to do with the loss than Muna. Muna clearly tried her best, her accent is nothing she can help!

John
[-] Posted by user98193 on 03/20/2007 7:06 PM
This is a very nice article. And I think for you, your last point makes sense for you.

What I have found, as I get older, and am more skilled and qualified, and work with peers who are more skilled and qualified, is that most managers are not qualified to be firing people - they are simply given that authority.

I have found, when dealing with more skilled and/or senior people of a company in the same peer position, when inept management comes along, they need to be fired, demoted or removed. But, their boss, the Vice President is not on the premises to realize management is not doing their job and, literally, creating a counterproductive environment.

So, the Vice President does not fire, demote or remove them and barely seems to know how severe the problems really are (or maybe he did know) that are direct results from poor, inept, under skilled managers. Most of whom do not even receive proper training from the company.

At this level, I realize the only way for a company to balance the scales is to not have management directly over people. Rather have management perform exclusively assistive and 'further training' type responsibilities over the whole, rather than a select group. This gives people more than one manager to rely on, if there is a personality issue it can be addressed by the two adults immediately without one being negatively harmed over and over by the other, and this takes a manager's control to harm those 'under them' away.

However, most large companies, seem stuck in old school modes of management and are not adapting and evolving to their sales forces, or other departments. (At my last job, with new sales, the ratio of sales to manager needed to be 1:5, more skilled sales to manager 1:10. Sales reps were so sophisticated at my last job the ratio was actually 1:20. The company did not recognize this nor adapt. The extra manager always caused problems, fabricated problems, harassed people (women), and created a counterproductive work environment.)

The solution I propose would eliminate most of the problems that occur between management and those under them.

Besides, we can always learn something beyond what we know in order to be even greater at our jobs. I worked for such a highly skilled sales force that the Vice President of the company would send out Sales 101 training programs to a Level 7 Sales Team and he never 'furthered' our training in any capacity.

The benefits: a sales person can perform the same level of tasks in 40 hours instead of 70. Then 30 hours instead of 40. And, as your skills grow even more 20 hours instead of 30 - which was my actual experience at the same job for 5 years.

As it was, these skills were primarily self-taught, or taught to me through my peers, as compared to learning because of aggressive and targeted measures taken by the management and executive team of the company.

I think sometimes, that is all we really need management for, but companies have to acknowledge it and adapt.
[-] Posted by member1503420 on 03/20/2007 9:20 PM
Mr. Trump

Please Tell Rosie she's fired. I look up to you as a leader , she is well beneath your caliper. Please do not play her game just walk away.

A fool will some times bring you down to his or her level and beat you with experience.

leave this fool along

Thanks for the well needed firing advice
[-] Posted by member1544001 on 03/20/2007 11:35 PM
Mr. Trump

I didn't know where else to post so I chose this blog. I am a medical professional and it is my passion. I recently took your Trump challenge just out of curiosity. I failed miserably and I did so because I took the test from my stand point of being a medical professional. My passion in life is not getting rich with wealth, but feeling rich from learning everything I can and perhaps saving a few lives along the way.

I am just curious why every thing is about "money money money". It just doesn't make sense to me. Perhaps that is why we rarely see medical doctors on the show.

Just my humbly annoyed opinion.
[-] Posted by member1260961 on 03/21/2007 12:12 AM
Regarding, "When you really have to say, Your're Fired!" This past sunday, I was surprised at the firing of Mona. Simply because, she asked Heide if she understood what she was saying. Secondly, Mona didn't want to take on the behind the scene operation that should have been handled by Katherine, the phantom Project Manager.

I think Mona, had the best credentials all around. I was surprised Heide, showed no loyalty to Mona. Mona's firing was short and pointed, but wrong. However, respectfully she left the board room with her honor in tact.

About Katherine, Heide, and Amy much was lost in the translation of their actions. Firing someone can be difficult when they have been billed as the "sacrifical lamb" by those who don't want them around. Firing, can also be just based upon the employees lack performance there of.

Mary Pominville
[-] Posted by member1456294 on 03/21/2007 5:11 AM
Yeah!!!, that was a good advice Mr Triump. it's nice hearing such tip one needs when it comes to firing. As you rightly said firing an employee is not what an employer will enjoy doing, but there are situations when it becomes necessary. I don't like firing any of my workers, but there was one I did in 2005 because I could not help it. She lacked decorum, respect and was a rude employee, so I could not help, she had to be fired. I also discovered that there are some employees that are very detrimental to the success of any organization because they just don't know haw to relate with customers and they are also always rigidly adamant. They hate correction, such must be shown out the way from the organization if the organization will succeed. Thanks. Dauda, R.S. Nigeria.
[-] Posted by Rit Man on 03/21/2007 10:46 AM
Muna needed to be fired because she is one of them people who put the brakes on every 5 seconds and make it impossible for the team to pull off their best work. Good call, it was easy from here. The others will have time to display if they are worthy or not.

- Rit
[-] Posted by KDReid on 03/21/2007 4:48 PM
I don't know Mr. Trump, being angry may get that employees attention a lot more quicker than keeping a cool head. If managers can relay the message to subordinates in a demanding sense of how their performance is unacceptable, that subordinates performance will improve and there may not have to be an firing going on. History shows that workers normally respond much more effectively to an authoritarian figure, compared to someone complacent. Of course, this is not to say management has to be abusive in their rolls, but sometimes carrying the big stick, and using it, is the way to go.
[-] Posted by user89187 on 03/21/2007 6:26 PM
Your Hired! I just love Donald Trump. I also think he would make the best President of the United States ever. Think about it, we could possibly even get some peace on the planet for a change! He could fire the whole administration and round up his list of 25 men so we could finally get this thing done right!
[-] Posted by member1462741 on 03/21/2007 6:37 PM
I appreciate your thoughtful advice on how to terminate someone. It's clear you understand how to separate emotion and personal feelings from what's best for the organization, and measuring a person's work performance on the basis of sound professionalism.

Another person who responded to your criticism of President Bush caused me to comment as well. There is a group of people who feel that just because someone is a celebrity or public figure, they shouldn't "ram their opinions down the publics throat." I think this position is absurd and shows their emotional weakness in the argument. Opinions are just that, they carry no more weight unless someone gives them more weight. Donald Trump is just as entitled to his opinion as anyone else. If he has a more powerful venue in which to share his opinions, so be it. Being a public figure does not require someone to give up their rights of free speech or expression. Do your own thinking, don't criticize what others think, join the debate!
[-] Posted by Daniela -Madrid on 03/21/2007 11:54 PM
Mr. Trump,
with your permission, I need an advice, look, if a small enterprise would like to co brand with a big corporation
*may the small one provide extra services to the customers the big brand open it already!? let say, that new markets are desireable but present high rate crime, and in order to be proactief, during the approuvements period and ground breaking for example of the principal investment as R.E. one, what if in that frame of time the co brand * clean
the waters and rise the quality of life by projects now : here is the question:
*as much as the globalization services generally spoken is as known Mercedes Co. has from automobiles to wood industry until spatial tech investments, but my question is that if a brand in R.E has to pay a lot of rights, taxes and approuvements in order to create value by the investition, ok,. so if the co brand small enterprise will run the extra services how that affect the brand from the mix of services with thissame regimen of taxes of i hope will benefit of some lower tax regime?how the best is: co branding on thissame type of services at thissame tax level or it depend of wideness of services we provide to the community too in order to obtain some tax abatement...I mean for public works, vital ones, are platformes projects encouraging the work
of responsibility? water supply, scarce resources but if spilways planned, than a lot of troubles not woth the noble cause we start with...
is a paradox isn*t? and if that jonction of investment is international, will the US for example encourage and honour that abatements? let*s say that is about terror aspects, that that kind of work really help the peace proces to maintain it safe..
Appreciate the time to think about that aspect, if not exist as legal frame,
than is a long term process to implement it or relatively short timed if well sustained?
[-] Posted by user89187 on 03/22/2007 6:22 AM
TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!
[-] Posted by member1546326 on 03/27/2007 3:53 PM
Hmmm... you don't say.
[-] Posted by bestapple on 03/30/2007 6:57 PM
Donald, have you ever had to succumb to the 'take the path of least resistance' when firing someone, who you knew didn't deserve to be fired, but because of the dynamics and interactions of other people in that business setting (co-workers), it seemed easier than addressing the issues the person being fired would bring up and resolving them, which would cause disharmony among a greater number of people? I ask because I have seen in different businesses most managers seem to do this. Regardless of the truth, if they think that getting rid of one person who complains about unfairness, inequality, nepotism is easier they will do that. Very few managers have effective problem solving skills beyond using the strategy of the path of least resistance. I have seen good people who told the truth be railroaded by small groups of vicious, envious, power hungry co-workers. I have even advocated for a Supervisor and a Vice President to their bosses when they were going to be terminated for perceived failure to effectively manage a diverse, wayward department.
[-] Posted by member1560570 on 04/16/2007 1:15 AM
Mr. Trump please do not say "You're Fired!" to none of the 4 Apprentice finalist. I am happy for all of them. I was hoping that someone from "Arrow" would win and for some reason I connected with this group from the beginning. I LOVE IT! Why not hire all four? I think this would be a wonderful twist to the "Apprentice" because James, Frank, Stephanie and Nicole possess different abilities that I think would fit in quite well with the "Trump Organization". They have worked side by side with each other from the beginning so they know what to expect from one another and I think that would make them feel more comfortable and work more harder in achieving to making sure your "new" tower is a successful one. I also think with four talented bodies working together as one; Mr. Trump, how can you go wrong? Take the risk. You can always say "You're Fired!" if you're not satisfied with their work.
[-] Posted by Rachael Sutton #1253595 on 12/08/2008 8:30 PM
If someone isn't a good fit, or is underperforming, you are doing both of you a favor in helping them move on to something that is more appropriate. Definitely hiring good people reduces the number of people who have to be let go. I haven't had to fire many people, but I have had to write a few up. I think it is vital to have set procedures in place and to keep good records to document the issues.
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