Woman Fired for Talking Back to Her Boss

Sounds weird. May be the job market there is not that good, and she cannot guarantee having another job as soon as she would like if she doesn't get her first job back.

It's not wise to go into a hostile workplace. We should work where harmony can be found between co-workers and management/owners, and we can even add the kind of work itself. Having to work for a living is one of the hardest and sadest experiences ever!

Its rather interesting that the lawsuit is happening in China, a country whereby I never thought a lawsuit like this would even fly.

In more conservative traditional countries, the boss is "THE BOSS", and we seldom have people really talking back. Even in my country Singapore.

Regards,
Alvin Huang

Sometimes an employee must talk back to the boss but politely. In the case of that woman I believe it was under a belligerent atmosphere which may explain why she lost her job. She is better off finding employment elsewhere mscsrrr.com

She can change a planet if she wants, but she will get the same thing.

So many people consulted me to sue my bosses in the company, but I smiled back and said to them: ' The only battlefield is my own Mind.
The only enemy is in my head. When I conquer Myself, the Tao will reveal, naturally, with no action needed. The battle will be win with no fight.'

Ina Matijevic

Hello Mr.Trump,

Although i agree with you, but in present times especially for a woman, its not just about winning back the persent job but more about justifying her actions and proving herself right and competent so that she doesnt have to undergo the painstaking experience of finding employment or being accepted honorably elsewhere.

Being fired and quitting on your own are two VERY different things. So if she wins (which i hope she does) not only does she get the job back, but she also gets the opportunity to quit on her own (to avoid backlashing etc) and simulataneously have equal chances like other people of getting employed elsewhere. Atleast she wont have to worry about negative remarks spoiling her career.

Mr. Trump, even though both you and I come from different continents even different cultural setup, we both live in the real world. Candidates with prior work experience are ALWAYS asked in the interview why they left their previous job or want to leave their existing job. And keeping this lady's profile in view, do you honestly feel she would be let off easily? I honestly dont think so. Atleast her winning the case would provide some kind of compensation in not being considered as an out of control and incompetent individual.

Thanks.

Well I do not even try to talk back to my husband yet alone my boss, men are special and carry a lot of weight particulary US. This sort of sum's up Desert Storm How bout we bring the troups home and put the war monguels in the institute.

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After glancing on the notes for a second time perhaps I should take another job up to You and Rosie, You pet ceo! And no gruttle.

I have lived a few years by now and I have had some tough challenges in those years and what I have come to learn is this:

If my boss does not have my back then he hasn't earned the station and title "my boss". Most bosses don't care to earn my trust either, and hence forth they are not my boss when trust is absent.

In most cases bosses assume it is only the employee that must earn trust, and for certain have the boss' back. An employee has very little support when the need arises.

I begged my boss to fire a few drunks over the summer because it was creating an offensive and abusive work environment. He liked that they worked so hard for their booze and left the rest of us to suffer. They actually didn't work very hard, the rest of us worked time and a half to make up for it while the boss was golfing. We didn't have a choice, the show must go on, even if we didn't get paid the overtime.

Returning twenty years later to this community and very little has changed, they still sell texas mickeys at the local garage, and the bars are a mess.

Now on a Saturday night when business is booming the local restaurant stove breaks down and an electrician is needed.

No can do the electrician is drunk.

So the small business man fixes it himself. Had he fried himself his insurance company could not have compensated his remaining family members for his own stupidity. He got lucky no such measures needed to be taken.

Now the next day we have kids using this stove at work, -- a stove that has not been properly inspected since its rewired and so not only has the boss jeopardized his family but -- a community of workers as well.

Three days later the electrician finely shows up. He's a friend that's okay says the boss. Inspection null and void theoretically in my mind.

A month later the same wiring shorted again. Now who do you trust, the drunk electrician or the small business man who does not heed safety standards ? But that all gets washed under the carpets because the restaurant reels in the customers ?

Money talks and women talk back ?

This same small business man has been written up for infractions on that stove all summer because he is inspected as a franchise owner. The franchise is just as much to blame because they keep letting it slide inspite of reports not to.

So does the frustrated woman who knows how much danger this boss has placed before the kids at work feel that quitting her job does not solve a long standing issue ?

Perhaps this lady you speak of does not want her job back so much as to fix a problem that is very important to her and she just does not have the ability to translate what it is that needs to be fix. The booze, the stove, the boss, the franchise ? Where to begin.

Finally for all those customers that are being reeled in, why is this restaurant paying out less to its employees, charging customers more by comparison to other stores that are running half the customer base with cheaper prices in the city ? Now one must remember this is a franchise.

Money talks and women talk back.

Nothing is ever what it seems.

I think it's a question of pride.
Maybee just for winning the right of taking her job back .
... and after the thrill of victory to have the full satisfaction of resigning.

In other case going back for working in a hostile environment is the worst case scenario.

Anyway, I think that in her cultural environment the act of suing the employer it's a hard risk. It's the risk of becoming a pariah for others employers.

You have right, maybee it was better for here to look for other job, but sometime you have to take the hit, isn't it?

Mihai

Yes I do think she would be walking back into a bad work place and would have just as much trouble or more when she returned. The only thing is why she is doing this, is it because she is trying to change how they treat her co-workers or for personal reasons. If for personal reason only I think she should move on as things will not change for her and will likely get harder for this woman. If you have made the boss that mad it is very hard to get back into his or her graces. I do know this, that if you are out of grace with the powers in charge , you will have to work and out-work all others to rise in that company. It may be best for her to just move on.

If the woman like this exist in our world, I suggest she works as self employee! She knows the best and she isn't allow to manage other employee unless she is one of board of director. Goosh......!!!

Donald,
It's a pet peave of mine. The boss is in a position of authority and if he runs the office that way then it stands. After all he's the boss and at time the boiss and owner are the same. Personally I do not like it when there is not a space between employees and management. even executive management. I truly believe it's a mistake to be too familiar with employees. There needs to be a detachment. Depending however, on the position given. The employees can not run the business. They do not have the expertise. There must always be someone in charge that is detached to make corporate decisions that employees may not agree with. In order to keep that edge there must be a space and a line drawn stating you DO NOT cross this line. Since she was given three opportunites to change and yet refused to and refused to pay the fines then her firing is justified and she should not be reinstated. She willingly broke the rule of no contridiction three times. Now no contridiction is a strict rule however there may be a reason for it. After all, who runs the company anyway? There must be a chain of command. not everyone is executive material. Even some executives are not executive material. i DO NOT believe someone should receive an executive position unless they are qualified and I really don't care what type of credentials they may carry. It's ability that counts. Ability and experience. Credentials can be mere paper work. Misleading. Ability and experience are physical products. Proven products. Credentials can be forged and falsly acquired. With what I have HEARD, now I said HEARD, that goes on at some universities as far as exams etc are concerned, doesn't necessarily qualify individuals. Life experience can not be replaced. Life experience and credentials are excellent qualities. Plus the right personality.
Now Donald I may need spell check on this case. I'm not gonna check it over again and my fingers sometimes move fast.
You ARE an amazing man. PERIOD!
P.S. Donald, I don't really care for people who use others proven qualities as their own. It's counterfeit. I love real people who can take the hits and behave themselves and still come up fighting for what's right and just. PERIOD.

Donald there's more. I do treasure feedback from people. In the correct manner. Emloyees can have great ideas and be extremely valuable. However, compensation is up to the boss. The boss. Any employee coniving to move ahead would actually lose in my point of view. I said coniving. I don't like dishonesty or deceit. They then becme a liability not an assett. You can't trust them. Real talent is seen by real abilities. Anything else and you always lose. It shows up somewhere. At some point. ALWAYS.
One more thing. I am not for hiring nor promotion on race, disibility, sexual orientation etc as the mandatory qualification. NOT AT ALL. However, the owner, whether corporate or singular has the right to decide, unless government contracts state otherwise where doing so would violate these contracts.
Jerilynn

Jerilynn

Dear Mr. Trump & Trump U., Can you imagine if that same lady was on the show " Hell's Kitchen" and talk back to the Master Chef. How about the broad room on the " The Apprentice" and answering your statement " You're Fired" with " I'm Sueing. The only way I would like to see her go back. Is if she went back after buying the business and then fireing the Boss. " Don't get mad, get everything, Darling".-Za-Za Gabor. Cedric Bell, charitablechildcare@yahoo.com

Thems are fightin' words, little lady!

The woman must learn that the minute she mentions the word sue to a man in business, it declares war, and she is an instant enemy.

It is an absolue oxymoron to think that she can sue, or even threaten to sue and then be welcomed back with open arms.
This is the crucial difference between men in business and women in business.
With men, there is no win- win, like how women are content with being flexible. There is only win -lose! men rarely change their minds.

Mean what you say by following through; no wishy-washy b.s.
But make sure that she moves to another land with all her relatives, as it is a very dangerous predicament, whereinas equality in the work place is still very much behind the iron curtain.

Considering the culture in which she is living, this is almost an impossible feat. She is obviously a woman who knows her own mind and is willing to stand up for herself with strength and courage. She is a true hero. You should seek her out, offer her a scholarship to Trump University- then watch out world!!

You have to take into consideration cultural features.
Chinese don't like to be dishonored. If you dishonor a Chinese, you will be their enemy for life. They will do whatever it takes to bring their dignity back. The woman is not fighting for the workplace as much as she is fighting for her dignity.

Respect to all Chinese women.

Hi,

I am reading this post and I see the problem from a different perspective. I agree with you regarding the fact she should just leave and get another job but... When the government and state are protecting so much the employee not the employer they are "allowed" to do this kind of stuff.

For example in my country, Romania, people prefer to go and get another job that to accept yelling and frightening. So, for some people is not easy to accept a failure or they are to proud of them selfs, to see the reason the BOSS is yelling at them.

I will recommend kindly to all the people involved in serious business 1st of all to stop yelling and to find solutions. The effort of yelling and the time consumed for this can be used to find solutions for both parties.

Regards,
Marius

You are right. So what is the motivator here? Courage, pride, ego, insanity? I'm surprised that China is the setting. I am not above speaking my piece, when I feel it needs to be said, if the relationship allows. In the past this was with beneficial results. Reasonable people value the truth. If the relationship doesn't allow, then, hold your piece and move on. Why waste the energy and suffer the retribution?