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It’s one thing for a company to forbid its employees to smoke at work, but what about businesses that tell their employees not to smoke at all?

A growing number of companies are prohibiting their workers from smoking not only at work, but also in their private lives. If they find out their employees are lighting up - even in the privacy of their own homes - they’re firing them.

One boss even said, “If you’re too stupid to understand that smoking will kill you, then we’re going to tell you that if you want to work for our company, you will not smoke.”

It sounds like discrimination, but in many states, it’s not. Only about two dozen states have laws that protect smokers from being fired or not being hired because of their habit. But in the rest, employers can do what they want.

 The employers benefit because it’s cost effective. Health insurance claims go down and insurance is cheaper for employees.

Some companies will hire smokers only under the condition that they agree to quit. Then they’ll give them the resources including counseling, the nicotine patch, and other programs.

It seems to make a lot of sense to me. It saves money. It saves lives. I know it’s a difficult habit to break, but if you haven’t started, don’t smoke. And if you smoke, do your best to stop.

Donald J. Trump is Chairman of Trump University.

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[-] Posted by u266082 on 12/05/2007 11:41 PM
This is an interesting concept. I am not saying it a bad thing. It is definitely a sign of the times: Smoking is no longer in vogue. My mom and dad are retired grocery clerks who have smoked for over 55 years. of course their health is failing, and they are upset that the Retail Clerks have cut back on their medical benefits. Dad is now oxygen dependent due to emphysema and doctors say every artery in mom's body is clogged. My folks are old school and do not comprehend this kind of control over peoples lives. They just might roll over and die if I tell them about this. Control over peoples personal choices or lives will have it's breaking point when we have too Big of a Brother. The question is when and where do freedoms and liberties become prohibitive to the point of a Red state of affairs. Patrick Henry gave a speech famous for the phrase "Give me liberty or give me death." I even gave a speech where I said "I'd rather be dead than Red." Those who smoke may have a death wish. My dad even called cigarettes "cancer sticks" and "coffin nails". He watched his dad die a sufferrable death from emphysema. But his dad was not that far removed from those fore fathers who faught to get out from under the oppression of Britain. My ancestors landed on those eastern shores about 200 years ago. They were a tough breed who pioneered west and worked the railroads over the continental divide and were loyal to the factories like Gladic McBeam in California. They even had their own ma and pa grocery shop and plating shop. I don't even know if they paid medical insurance, they never got sick. Then my parents generation had companies that covered them medically and paid great wages. God forbid they should strike out on their own; they became dependent on such companies. Too many laws made having your own business less profitable. Even Litton (the big aerospace company) went under about the same time my other grand pa dropped dead at his desk job there. It is a different world for each generation. But the common man could get off work, go home to have a drink and always a smoke to relax and rest to start his next work day over again. But I also noticed with each generation that the smell of the cigarettes changed. They did not smell toxic when I was little. And when I was a teen the smoke did not bother me. But now, in my 50's, I am so sensitive to 2nd hand smoke; I wonder if the tobacco companies are putting poison in them. Any way, it seems that the other 2 dozen states at least let people's freedoms remain protected. It's about choice. What next? If an employer finds out you got a ticket for eating in your car or driving with a cell phone in you hand they can fire you? You are still a medical liablity doing that. Where do we draw the line?
[-] Posted by u229222 on 12/06/2007 2:33 AM
Mr. Trump,

I want to let you know something at a personal level.... I was in the audience when you spoke in Philadelphia earlier this year for Bill Zanker's school. I was listening in on the Q and A portion of your presentation, when a woman, who was an elementary school teacher, asked you to give your best piece of advice for her students, and you said, "don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs."

I come from the school that teaches, to be a success, look to the successful in life... although I think we have all experimented with such things at some point in our lives, after I heard you say this, I've never gone back to any of it.

I also recall at this particular speech, another woman went up to the microphone and asked you to bless her.. I think she thought you were God or something, lol.

D.L.
[-] Posted by William Yang on 12/06/2007 4:25 AM
But how about marketing assosiate profession?

sometimes we must clone our potential clients habit to get close to them. if they smoke we smoke, if they drink we drink, also if they not, we also not.

Just like you Donald, when you stuck in some negotiation and find out that the other side love golf, you talk golf.

it isn't just a bad habit. it was profession.
[-] Posted by airplane_country on 12/06/2007 8:28 AM
Once again, you're right, Mr. Trump. As I've said in an earlier comment to one of your blogs, both of my grandparents have smoked since they were teenagers. I've always encouraged them and my aunt to quit before one or more of them got sick. Unfortunately, it took my grandfather getting Stage 3 bladder cancer, one of the leading causes of which is smoking, before they finally quit. I hope it is not too late fore my grandmother, aunt, or my three young cousins, who grew up breathing second hand smoke. If someone is too stupid to save their own lives by simply quitting smoking, then I don't want them to work for me. I encourage all smokers to quit before they and their families have to go through what mine is.
[-] Posted by Fine International Homes on 12/06/2007 9:07 AM
Dear Mr Trump, I agree and it has been proven that smoking is bad for your health but where are we going if a company can prohibit their employees from smoking in the environment of their own home. Maybe in the future they will forbid you to drink your glass of wine with dinner. I honestly think this goes too far. I’m not a smoker and I can’t stand the smell of it but one’s privacy is one’s right. And isn’t this what the United States is all about? The land of FREEDOM. My suggestion is : start with those who are providing the cigarettes, the manufacturers, let them pay huge taxes to cover the health problems they cause. I mean seriously, I haven’t seen anything as hypocrite as a huge advertisement for a big tobacco company, showing how beautiful life is and than in small print saying that smoking is bath for your health.
Magda
www.fineinternationalhomes.com
[-] Posted by Business 2000 Foundation.com on 12/06/2007 3:49 PM
We don't smoke or enjoy it's odor, or its ill. However, this is a free country in the USA. To us, it is is a personal choice, just like drinking can kill, it is still based upon free will of choice and being able to understand certain restrictions...age being just one of them.

We all could have bad health, do to the smog and air-polution...is it illegal to drive a car? Even though we all know its can be bad.. Free will based upon fredom of choice. The doctors warn...we eithier can listen or ignore...but it is free will. Is that freedom?
[-] Posted by member1694159 on 12/07/2007 3:04 AM
Dear Mr Trump, my name is Kim Hansen imé twenty years old and I want to talk to you about some plans I got.
I can´t do it in person because imé from sweden and it´s a to long swim for that.
Anyway if your read this and feel that you maybe have a few moments to spare, and read an email??
Imé a fan of yours either way.
Merry christmas.

Best regards
Kim Hansen
Varberg "sweden"
[-] Posted by Cheryle on 12/07/2007 6:36 AM
What's next?

If you believe privacy still has a place in America, "Home of the Brave, Land of the Free," then intrusion into the lives of employees and "private citizens" should be protected under the law.

Contrary to many personal opinions regarding healthcare savings, I see a rise in the misuse of insurance protection from millions of people that don't smoke cigarettes.

How many employees seek medical attention when all they really want is a vacation or time away from work?

Cigarette smoking (or not) is far less dangerous than our interstate highways. Everyday, people are killed, lives are ruined because of permanent injury, and insurance rates continue to go up.

Before we judge individuals based on narrow beliefs( the only fact being that everyone is born and everyone dies) we should consider the consequences of denying groups of people their right "to the pursuit of happiness."

A more logical choice is to let "property owners", customers, and employees decide for themselves if smoking is allowed. A sign at the entrance would let everyone know where they are wanted, or not wanted.

Taking away freedom of CHOICE, contradicts the Spirit of America, a VALUE that millions of men and women fought our enemies to protect.

If you think cigarette smoke is harmful to your health, how about polluted water?

You can live a long time smoking cigarettes, but how long will you live if drinking water becomes deadly?

Should we pass a law that prohibits drinking water on public and private property?

What's next?
[-] Posted by Cheryle on 12/07/2007 7:49 AM
"Mommy, what does Private Property Keep Out mean?"

"It means your father and I are fools to work hard everyday to pay the mortgage, property insurance, taxes, electricity, water bill, cable television, put food in your mouth and still have enough money to help our local charities when your father's boss at work tells him he can't come home, "go into his basement and have a cocktail and a few cigarettes while he plans his next big idea for his company to stay in business."

"When are we moving out of the country?"
[-] Posted by Shraddha on 12/08/2007 4:00 PM
I hate the smell of cigarrette smoke. I wholeheartedly agree with smoking bans in restaurants and public places (frankly, what took so long for that). BUT I do NOT agree with employers interfering with employees' personal lives and telling them what they can and can not do in the privacy of their homes. This is America and freedom is supposed to be our way of life.
[-] Posted by Shraddha on 12/08/2007 4:01 PM
If employers want to give incentives and encouragement to employees to quit smoking, that's one thing. But they shouldn't take away their hard-earned paychecks unnecessarily.
[-] Posted by kiwibryn on 12/09/2007 10:03 PM
Speaking as an ex-smoker, I can only applaud the good sense of these companies. I smoked from the age of 13 til February this year (33 years), sucked in by the peer pressure, then addicted. (Yes I remember the Marlboro Man...). Now I find that my system is NOT shaking off the damage, as some "experts" hired by the tobacco companies would have us believe. Be logical, I voluntarily inhaled amounts of soot, tar and other poisons that in slightly larger concentrations would have killed me... and these apologists say that the damage goes away...
More power to these companies. I would love to see tobacco added to the list of illegal drugs.
[-] Posted by Petar Dimov on 12/14/2007 5:11 PM
Mr Trump is not God,
but he is a self-made billionaire,
and when a man like him tells us that it is
reasonable to take a decision and to try not to
smoke, at least we should give it a minute of consideration.

Many who smoke started it becouse of someone else, not becouse
it was their biggest dreams since they were born on this wonderful world.
www.motivator.del.bg
[-] Posted by Cheryle on 12/15/2007 1:25 PM
Dear Mr. Trump,

I am happy to see that a controversial subject like "Smoking at Home" is getting the attention it deserves.

Whether or not they agree, it is nice to see people honestly expressing their opinions with respect and nonviolence.

If other countries were to adopt "freedom of expression rights," I'm sure there would be fewer wars, less migration to the Unied States, and more interesting people for me to meet when I travel for business or a much needed vacation.

What do you think of robots (who don't smoke) taking away jobs like housekeeping, serving food and beverages in restaurants, and whatever else they can be programmed to do?

I saw one on the news. Like you said, "the world is changing rapidly."

Lucky for me, I live in a country where we can still discuss change.
[-] Posted by musicangel on 12/15/2007 4:31 PM
I agree that smoking is a bad idea. My grandparents have smoked since they were teenagers and now my grandfather has Stage 3 bladder cancer. However, I feel the same way about companies banning their employees from smoking at home as I do about homosexuality; what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors. What you do at home should be none of your employers business unless you make it his business.
[-] Posted by E. Rizzo on 12/18/2007 12:45 AM
Good. It's a disgusting, filthy, smelly, revolting habit. It certainly interferes in a person's personal hygiene. You can be the cleanest person in the world...but, then, you smoke a cigarette & you suddenly become a toxic waste dump.
[-] Posted by member1702899 on 12/28/2007 11:20 PM
Well, companies can try to ban smoking at home.. but I for one would never tolerate an employer telling me what to do in my own personal life. Whats next? Fatty food ban? Alcohol ban?

Nope.. I wont tolerate it and if I did work for such a company I would violate the policy every chance I got. No one tells me how to live my life. End of story.
[-] Posted by member1705277 on 01/03/2008 12:59 PM
I think this is great. In Canada a lot of new regulations have been instilled to protect innocent people from the dangers of smoking recently and initially there was a lot of resistance and nightclub owners and pub owners were complaining that they were going to lose business and all kinds of implications. The fact is these business people don't really give a damb about their custamers if they just cater to smokers. Maybe they could get creative or think outside the box and cater to non-smokers and change the attitude and beliefs of the industry. In many cases this is already a reality and is succesfull. Only the strong will survive and those that welcome change and create and flow with it are the individuals that deserve the rewards from the universe. I am a struggling quitter of smoking. If I was in the position of needing to quit smoking to keep my job or get hired for a new one I would fully understand why a company would have these rules. The costs of insurance aside, smoking leads to more illness and that leads to more absenteism which is unnecessary loss of production for companies. Smokers will argue it is their choice to smoke and that is a decision they make but with decision comes responsibility and smokers have to take responsibility for their choice to smoke. Even if it means losing their job. They have a choice to quit. Companies on the other hand have a resposibility if they are to bring in these types of rules to provide existing employees an opportunity and assitance to quit. Now a prospective employee, too bad, it's a condition of employement. Smoking costs us Canadians a fortune in tax payers dollars in medical expenses every year and that money would be much better spent towards promoting health initiatives or education.
[-] Posted by Rachael Sutton #1253595 on 12/15/2008 6:49 PM
I support that stand. Like I said before, why is it even legal to manufacture or sell? And, like I answered myself before, lobbyists and profit.
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