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We wonder why there are so many education problems in our country. Well, maybe it’s because administrators spend way too much time with issues that have nothing to do with actual education.

Recently, a school policy at Shepherd Junior High School in Mesa, Arizona, made national headlines...and not for good reasons.

The school has banned hugs between students that last longer than two seconds. Students who are caught hugging for any longer than that are punished with detention. So many students - and even parents - were upset by the policy that they staged a public protest across the street from the school. Dozens of students gathered together for a 20-minute hug-a-thon with their parents’ support.

Administrators said the reason the “no-hugging” rule was instituted in the first place was that some students and teachers were concerned about public hugging and kissing in the hallways.

I understand that behavior doesn’t belong in schools, but - more importantly - I think schools need to spend their time and effort on actual education, not on issues like this.

Kids need to learn and they also need to get along. Who cares if they hug once in awhile? If educators are wasting their time worrying about hugging in the halls, then the students lose out.

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[-] Posted by *Gopi* 'Where Quality becomes Reality' on 03/17/2008 9:17 AM
Is this a joke?

It makes my day anyway:). Maybe, they can control C02 from students lungs.
''Children, please, breathe 10 times in a minute, or all Antartica will come to your doorsteps.''

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[-] Posted by member1724706 on 03/17/2008 9:41 AM
I agree with you, Mr. Trump. There is nothing wrong with the short, consensual hugging that these kids are doing. This would be acceptable behavior between friends in a business setting, so why not at school? It is a great chance for them to learn where the line is that they do not cross.They were not being vulgar or risqué about it, so what's the harm? It's beneficial as a strees reliever and in this age of bullying and school shootings every bit of stress reduction helps.
[-] Posted by lightwayvez on 03/17/2008 12:15 PM
There will always be one or two who ruin it for the rest. To be sure the school lacked creativity within the context of its problem solving techniques.
[-] Posted by Leesa for (c) DB7 International (LLC) on 03/17/2008 5:10 PM
I've noticed that today's highschool students are like hippies at a love-in even with platonic friends.
There is a definate shift of conciousness for social graces that allow s it to be cool to embrace warmly.
It's certain that the policies of this highschool are concerned with the sexual undertones of hugging and not the bear hugs or group hugs.
Making out in hallways doesn't really concern other teenagers, it's just the teachers that find it obscene/indecent or immoral.
But his isn't a new policy !
In fact, it has always been the concern of adults to keep the raging hormones of teenagers in check throughout the ages!
Chaperoning and monitoring of appropriate behaviours is nothing new.
For business however, I feel that hugging isn't professional!

Always shake his hand and look right into his eyes. NEVER EVER HUG OR KISS.

especially in front of his other colleagues, as they will look at each other with that expression on their faces that 'he must be doing her on the side'

They might even wonder how come you didn't kiss them?

Don't get yourself into the position of kissing and hugging men in business, or you will be like an Italian bride in a receiving line.....
Besides, men in business love to cup a feel and get a secret little squeeze in any chance they can get!
ADMIT IT MR.TRUMP, primitive instinct prevails.

But, I'll play spin the bottle with you anytime! Or how about ten seconds in the closet?
[-] Posted by about to erase it all hope you made a copy on 03/17/2008 7:45 PM
While I do not agree with your position on e-mail, and have made it my personal mission to protest your position, and explore with vigor and zest the impact the e-mail may have, I do at long last agree with you on this issue (with conditions). In today’s world most children live in homes where there is limited contact if any at all. They interact with technology more than humanity, and if they happen to see a parent who is not exhausted or strung out on dope then they are indeed in a rare home. Mesa is also plagued with a very special problem involving high drug traffic and criminal activity, and the mesa police really are not that "into" investigating crimes. The attitude in Mesa is unless they found the crime, they don’t want to know about it, so I am just shocked that hugging is enforced when they don’t even care about stolen UHauls in that town. I tell you the honest to God truth when I tell you that I rented a truck from a place that swears they don’t rent Uhauls- I ask the police if they wanted to know about something like that they instructed me to "investigate the crime" "get the details and get back to them". But hugging, that is very SERIOUS! Lets just let that stolen vehicle situation slide we have to stay all over those kids who will not stop hugging!
Mesa is just a weird place! I don’t know how to explain the things that go on there, or the people that come out on top there, I can just tell you that it is a very unique place-
In some ways it is a little like Chicago but it is in the desert with a bunch of cactus! Just really weird stuff happens in Mesa.
I may never fully understand the way things work, or the reasons why people do stuff there.
If I had to draw a picture for New Yorkers to understand the culture I would tell you its like Little Italy without the cool people, and just plagued with a bunch of people with scabs all over their bodies trying to act like they are really cool and "the boss man"- maybe they have some sort of skin infection at that school they don’t want the kids to pass back and forth- I really would not doubt it.
Sorry, I really am, but Mesa is gross, almost as gross as downtown Phoenix! And I would not doubt it is there is something they are trying to keep the kids from passing back and forth. Still if there is no logical reason, then I would agree they should let the clean scab free children hug all they wish.

I know I should be more of a fan of the "parts" of AZ, since I live here, but it is because I live here I can tell you how I honestly feel- and besides its only a feeling- not shared by all. I am biased about Mesa- the Judge who helped the kidnappers take my daughter is from there.
[-] Posted by member1750184 on 03/17/2008 8:20 PM
The "two second hug rule" is not exactly what I would consider higher learning. Perhaps, they could teach an accounting course or statistic course around this new rule. Students could be assigned to collect data on classmates observed to be "hugging" or "not hugging." The study could produce reports that the students could present to the school board (board room experience). At the conclusion, a correlation study could be conducted to see if hugging leads to higher or lower overall grades.

Medicine is a "high touch" career - maybe some of the huggers will end up being great physicians or nurses.

Jessica Bond
Medical Careerist
http://jessicabond.blogspot.com
[-] Posted by Business 2000 Foundation.com on 03/17/2008 9:18 PM
We do think schools need to learn on what is or is not important, in trying to teach our children.
Is this about a hug? or groping in sexual fantasy in the school hallways? There is a difference.

How many times did we all just need a hug to get through the day? We don't agree with the school in the restrictions of freedom, but caution to turn up the volume about teenage pregnancy. The schools have failed to lead and skiped over the real issues. Sometimes, we all need a hug.

Maybe, focus on cell phone usage and text messaging in schools. They failed to teach basic teaching on why the younger generation seem disconnected in school.
[-] Posted by member1758007 on 03/17/2008 10:49 PM
unfortunately this is the reality today with institutions run by arrogant academics. these people have completely lost their sense of what it means to be a social being. even an economics professor at harvard stated that academics are miserable antisocial people. but what worse is, because they themselves are miserable beings, they feel that everyone else should be like themselves. their arrogance and intellectuality blinds them badly.

even worse still, they think they can control all aspects of their students lives. so yesterday they banned flashy clothes, today they ban hugging, but believe you me, tomorrow they would want to control the way you think as well. education should make people think independently, not force them to think in specific one way (their way).
[-] Posted by member1758071 on 03/18/2008 1:46 AM
I have been in the school system for 8 years now and have to tell you that this article is just the tip of ice berg.
I have two four year olds and am not looking forward to the public school system but plan to be VERY INVOLVED and urge other parents to the same. You would not believe me if I told the stories. Parents get involved.
[-] Posted by Cheryle on 03/18/2008 5:07 AM
Hugging, kissing, holding hands, shaking hands, a pat on the back, a high-five, "what's up,
Bro?" and many other GREETINGS have been used throughout history in every culture
known to mankind. The Greeks did it, the Romans, Irish (especially after a few pints of
beer) and so did the people in Shakespeare's Theatre. It is seen in movies, on
television, and occassionally in newspapers. The only difference being that the media
and press show scandal not affection. Is it possible the reporter was giving this "hug"
a twist for the opportunity to get public attention? I think so.
If teachers are concerned about a hug, perhaps they should teach a history class that
can demonstrate how hugs affect a student's ability to learn. Then the "teacher" and
the students can bond in a positive way.
[-] Posted by Mary Rose on 03/18/2008 5:19 AM
This was in Jr. High. A friend earning her PhD in education once told me that at this age, the primary emphasis is on socializing the children- not on learning. They are supposed to get the basics in grammar school and the details in high school- but in middle school- teachers care more about the social process. A few years later, I saw a study that claimed that most middle school textbooks were inadequate- which shows that the emphasis was not on learning. Hopefully the textbooks have improved since the study. This over-attention to hugging is just another example of this philosophy. But I think that if you want to teach socialization, then you should let the hugs last at least 10 seconds. Hugs are good things.
[-] Posted by member1758115 on 03/18/2008 7:56 AM
No wonder the US is in such a mess...is this all that the news has to worry about...Hugs in school, how about teaching them some of the basic things in life that matter and not worrying about a hug being more than two seconds long.

Have a great day friends

Stuart Crawford
Calgary, AB, Canada
http://www.stuartcrawford.com
[-] Posted by member1758194 on 03/18/2008 12:57 PM
Good Afternoon,
I absolutely agree with Mr. Trump. Why is it the schools are focused more on the "Do's & Dont's, rather than educating the students? I wish that could be answered , so the break down of the class rooms, could be minimal. Maybe the teachers should be evaluated on their sunstance of teaching.....
[-] Posted by bdubya13 on 03/18/2008 5:26 PM
Perhaps Mr. Trump should hug the editors of Forbes magazine, then they might bump you up the ladder of the richest list.....I mean come on only 3 billion
[-] Posted by member1756999 on 03/18/2008 7:05 PM
Hugs feel good, do not transmist contageous disease and they are healthy; therefore I suggest that we begin a "Trump Hug Program" that will promote hugging and will boast about all the benefits it entails. There are too few hugs and too many guns going around these days!
[-] Posted by member1763483 on 03/21/2008 9:20 AM
Hugs are positive strokes that make people HAPPY !
[-] Posted by member1764327 on 03/22/2008 9:23 PM
We spend triple the amount (adjusted for inflation) TODAY than we did 30 years ago, per student, in our education system, yet our schools continuously go downhill. Over a third of students don't even graduate High School! It's pathetic. Our schools are being run like our government, and our tax money is being spent paying for mundane policies on things like hugging. Our founding fathers would be appauled.

Schools need to be run like a business. The business of education and educating our kids. And the seniority system needs to be thrown in the garbage. If good teachers were paid bonuses and ranked by PERFORMANCE (as they should be, and as we all are in our respective businesses), there would be a change in the way things work. Instead we have lousy teachers higher in rank than great teachers, and we're scaring our kids with global warming garbage rather than truly educating them.

Let's get back to the basics. Students can't even identify the US on a global map any longer. It's a fact that half of US seniors in high school, read on a 5th or 6th grade level.

If this country is to continue to prosper, we need to get the right people running the education system. We need teachers paid more, and we need the BS 'committees' paid NONE. We need to quit worrying about being P.C. and realize we're falling behind in a BIG way because of this nonsense.
[-] Posted by member1764545 on 03/23/2008 9:17 PM
Public educators should focus on educating! If they focused on their jobs and let parents do theirs the education system would be better off.

HPS
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[-] Posted by member1530923 on 04/04/2008 3:26 PM
One again you are also Wise. May i add, well respected and im an admirer. I agree that maybe teachers and schools have become a "back to school issue" that may not be a good idea to mix Hugs at Home.
Honestly Hugs was a warm welcome, something my family initiated and a concept on email for fun. Inviting your friends in when they need it. Definitely for mature audiences only and a personal hug not intended for retail stores.
Remember when William Clinton would charm advisors and Leaders around the world with a hug? Hes the only President ive noticed to this go beyond the hand shake and win over a war with a hug. Enough said. LOL.

Ms. Karen OConnor.
[-] Posted by Rachael Sutton #1253595 on 12/25/2008 3:43 PM
Having worked with prevention education and the courts, I can see the reasons behind this schools implementation of their policy. There are appropriate times places and ways for demonstrations of affection, and many kids do not have parents to guide them on what those may be. Believe me, kids can be very inappropriate without guidance. I believe even Mr. Trump will agree that any touch should only be with both parties consent - even a handshake. Every person needs to learn to show respect and to recognize boundaries. Hugs are great in the right places with the right people. We don't have information regarding any abuses that may have been the impetus for this policy at this particular school.

The real issue here is how this policy was developed. It appears to have been from the top down, and the report indicates that after being developed, they got lax in enforcement. Then, they tried to re-enforce it. Of course, that resulted in rebellion. Good parents and good educators know discipline has to be consistant. At this point, an effective way to salvage the situation will be to create a community based group to examine and rewrite the policy. This group should inlcude representatives of faculty, parents, youth, law, childrens counselors, and religious leaders - and a good facilitator. This group can craft an acceptable community policy and ways to get buy in with public education. This event handled correctly can bring strength to the community, allow appropriate displays of affection, while protecting youth from inappropriate touch.
[-] Posted by member1989943 on 06/22/2009 9:50 PM
I went to Shepherd during the time this rule was implied. I just think its funny that this ridiculous matter is so wide spread.
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