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I know it’s never safe to talk about religion and politics, but it certainly hasn’t stopped me before.

Are you religious? There’s a good chance you don’t practice the same faith you were raised in. Perhaps you’ve either switched allegiances or abandoned religion altogether.

When it comes to faith, nearly half of Americans have changed faiths or given up. It’s no surprise since we’re a society that’s used to change - whether in careers or where we live or in our personal lives. Religion is just one more thing we alter.

Some people are saying the religious economy is like a competitive marketplace. There are winners and losers, but no one is complacent. Denominations are jockeying for members just like businesses are working to gain clients.

People are losing confidence in organized religion and traditional religion, but still say faith is at least somewhat important to them. So they experiment until they find a denomination they like...at least for awhile. Then they’ll try something else.

It certainly sounds a lot like politics to me.

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[-] Posted by Rachael Sutton #1253595 on 12/26/2008 11:08 AM
Pew always does interesting things. Here, they are trying to differentiate, but I find there are more things that are common in most religions than are different. You ask are we religious. My response is that depends on the definition you are referring to. The one that Websters supplies as "Faithful and conscientious" fits - so yes.

You are right that religion and politics are subjects that need to be handled with discretion if you don't want to allienate people. They are very similar and political, but then, so are many professions such as education.
[-] Posted by Business 2000 Foundation.com on 12/26/2008 12:25 PM
To find a person's own path. And to create a path that that they stand up for in their personal and professional lives. To practice what they preach.

To be new aged, some would argue is the same faith...in God. But, is it. Faith...in the traditions or just giving up on God. The new generation has a much differnt perspective, that carrys into their own path in business and personal lives.

To stand up for your conivictions and honor your faith needs a conviction to be independent in leadership when called upon.
[-] Posted by Martin Mckay on 12/26/2008 1:24 PM
Dear Mr Trump,

At last, I can converse with someone whom is not one bit scared to confront such issues.

I myself am not really religious, my wife is a catholic. I asked her to question her religion in November 2008 out of curiosity, as I said, the more you question it the less it seems plausible, still, this fell on death ears as is her right.

For myself, I remain ever dynamic and wish you all happy holidays!!

http://martinmckay.blogspot.com/
[-] Posted by Rachael Sutton #1253595 on 12/26/2008 2:26 PM
I agree, with the comments posted by Business 2000 Foundation on 12/26/2008 12:25 PM indicating we should live what we believe and practice what we preach. I also appreciate the principles this country was founded on which included the freedom for each person to make a personal choice in what that might be. Our beliefs provide the track we travel over to get to our destination in life. I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, and I will not accept any belief blindly when it is forced on me. I have spent time carefully learning what there is to believe and sifted through those teachings for the truths within.

Working with youth and exchange students, requires you to be knowledgable about many different faiths. Whether we agree with any of them or not, we all actually have more in common than we have different. Don't you feel the true spirit of most religions comes from a place of love, and the one universal thread is the golden rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" It is worded differently by each religion, but it is a timeless principle. I will not condemn anyone for believing differently than me. I will love them and try to show them by example, but not from an elevated egoic self-righteous space, instead, a place of humility and acceptance.
[-] Posted by member1815053 on 12/26/2008 5:03 PM
Hi Everyone,

The Holy Christmas Time is almost over in this year and I it is nice to be here in the Trump Blog. When I am here with you Americans and with you Mr. Donald Trump in this Trump Blog I feel myself relaxing and I am proud about this privilege to be here. I feel comfortable. I am also amazed how much time you Mr Donald Trump are using to be in this blog with us and that is why it is so "easy" to come here to discuss about all kind of things.
This Religion is in the other hand quite delicate thing to discuss, because you cannot say what part is right or wrong. I respect everyones sight about life and relation to Religion and especially in worklife you are not allowed to ask about individuals outlook on life. I think it is lifes richness that we have different sights so it brings also richness to teamwork and you are questioning how you managed to get along with different people and to respect them.
I hope you all warm and happy end of this year and be your year 2009 happier than this ending year !
[-] Posted by user9130 on 12/26/2008 6:20 PM
One reason people abandon their religious Faith is because it is man made. Man can never satisfy the depths of a person's soul. But when God is the lover of your soul its not the same. Man can never quench that thirst everyone's souls long for. Only He can. People are looking in the wrong places to fill that void/thrist. When man makes a religious organization it is just as political as coporate America. BUT when God has His hand in the development its can't easliy be abandoned. There is something different about when He touches something. It will never be the same again.
[-] Posted by BlueOcean on 12/26/2008 6:32 PM
Religion in itself is a good thing. People get to know values and have a certain support by their community.

However there should not be any religion that promotes hate or allows something like a holy war. Just as religion should not have any influence on politics.

I am a catholic but if I look at the history of my religion I can see what negativ outcomes it has when a religion gets too much power. Here in Europe the inquisition costed us thousands of innocent woman lives who were named witches. Even in seemingly very peaceful religions like the indian one you have things like the cast system.

So religion is good for many people but it has to be regulated.
[-] Posted by Alf J. Lundgren on 12/26/2008 6:54 PM
I prefer to make up my own mind on this matter. I don't think I 100% agree with any religion out there. I believe there is good & evil, a god and a devil, and that it is up to each person to pick sides. I always try to do what is right. And I think that by doing that I pick the good side.

But I always try to respect peoples different believes. As long as it doesn't get evil. Don't get me wrong though, I wouldn't like to see this world without beliefs, people need something to believe in, I do to.
[-] Posted by Dana Rene Hoecker on 12/26/2008 7:40 PM
Religion is political and it carries the same structure except the" CEO" is not present.This then becomes a problem to the business end. The spiritual end(product) is the most important.We tend to lean towards the money side for many reasons.The "boss" not being present is the biggest factor routing the "Business" towards destruction from within.one church has such "CEO PROPHET " and the same is acting President..How does one worship two Gods?Being of knowledge I have revealed all the revelations and i know the meaning of the parables in the bible.I had to lose the riches of the world to do these things.I could not work and live like the old me and have the mental ability to study for the truth.Now i have even this day located the appearance of a lamb like slain before the Alter and i seen the beasts with many heads and eyes and i think i have seen the two witnesses set before the Alter.The seal of the Lord was a Signet ring.the sign of E.T. these are what i found this day.This did not reveal it self to me.No, i had to study and read and envision the translation of the most difficult book we posess.The Holy Bible.Mans biggest wonder is our Creation and our Future.This is what i found in the sealed book i opened. I learned it is best to keep it sealed up for if i read therein it happens.Religion is the most serious business we as humans run.We are very poor at it.I pray when the world is ready they will seek me out and know i have done the impossible.I have conquered the mystery's of the most mis understood political power there is known.I hope this is seen soon and i no longer share this truth with only myself.Whats to come is not waiting on us.bless the mis fortunate and happy holidays.dana rene hoecker
[-] Posted by member1791844 on 12/26/2008 9:37 PM
The church that I was raised in is still like home. I have visitied the Methodist and Catholic Church and they are very spiritual, lots of prayers and candlelight, and music from masters. What I like most about their churches is afterwards we go downstairs for punch and cookies. There is a comraderie. My own church has so many members here that we are rushed in and rushed out. We hardly know the person sitting next to us. Punch and cookies are good. Ahh, I recall a return missionary coming to me after the service. Suddenly, there were five girls surrounding us. That was unfair. All this is important networking, part of last week's Trump Blog. We have to get to know and love each other as human beings, real brothers and sisters. Then when we need help, it will be there.
[-] Posted by TERESA SKINNER VA BCH member1784598 on 12/27/2008 6:56 PM
FROM: TRUMP MY ACE.

DEAR MR. TRUMP:
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE REASON YOU WOULD BRING UP THIS SUBJECT. IT IS A GREAT TOPIC. MAYBE YOUR MOTIVE IS TO GET PEOPLE TO SOUL SEARCH AND WHEN OR WHO TO BRING THESE SUBJECTS UP. I NOTICE THAT YOU MADE THE TRUTHFUL POINT THAT PEOPLE SEARCH FOR A CHURCH OR BELIEF THAT FITS THEIR NEEDS, YEAH KIND OF LIKE DECIDING WHO TO VOTE FOR WITH THEIR NEEDS UPPER MOST IN CONSIDERATION.
FOR ME IF YOU HAVE A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OR CHRIST OR BOTH PEOPLE WILL WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT. THAT IS WHEN TO SPEAK UP NOT SHUT UP. WHEN YOUR SPIRITUALITY LUMINATES OUTWARDLY THAT IS WHEN TO TALK, WHEN YOUR ASKED.
IF SOMEONE DEBATES RELIGION, THEY ARE NOT SPIRITUALY MATURE. AND WHO IS RIGHT VERSES WHAT IS RIGHT COMES IN TO PLAY.

I WANT TO REITERATE THE RESPECT I HAVE FOR YOUR CHILDREN. TO BE HONEST COMING FROM A PRIVELEDGED FAMILY YOU DID A SUPERB JOB.

HAPPY NEW YEAR,
TERESA
[-] Posted by member1901946 on 12/28/2008 4:18 AM
It is true to say, that for each of us religion is something different: more or less intimate, personal... Nowadays it is modern to be religious and for me it is a bit strange - if a person really believes, he/she will hardly tell about it everywhere and for everyone! For those interested in this topic - good food for thought - http://rardir.com/download.php?FileID=125906&Description=religion+nat....
[-] Posted by member1902108 on 12/28/2008 6:14 AM
People who believe in religion need to pick up a science book and realize it is the year 2008 not 1208. It is unfortunate that millions buy into that nonsense or bought the book the secret and now think that it is true that you can make wishes and the universe will make them come true or read astrology books and not astronomy books.

If you want to fantasize about magic, gods, angels and superstition, play a game of Dungeons and Dragons or watch Harry Potter, but don't delude yourself into thinking it is true.

But I guess that is what you get when everyone is forced to attend government welfare schools
[-] Posted by Cheryle on 12/28/2008 9:35 AM
Americans try to "write the religion" just like politicians try to control human behavior. The better their skills, the more investors they convince. When all is going well, they praise and when change occurs that is not to their liking, they rebel.

To change from one's first exposure to religion doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean you don't believe in Spiritual progress. It doesn't mean your parents or school were trying to teach you something that is harmful. And it doesn't change the fact that humans are born with "free will."

A newborn knows nothing about being a Jew ; or a Christian ; a Governor ; or a Scientist..
All of these words have been taught from one generation to the next.

Who you choose to identify with or not is your choice. Some people would rather be killed than surrender to a belief they don't agree with. Many religious wars were fought because of these disagreements, and many governments were over-thrown.

People know when they are doing something wrong. They know when they feel happy.

All religions teach ideals, and the consequences for not living up to these ideals. The same is true for governments.

If you are a team player, you understand the need for opposition. In Sports, how can you cheer for your favorite team if there is only one team? Does that mean the Yankees will win every game?

In religion, evil teaches you what good is. In Politics, it lets you feel the difference. And when you die,
who knows?

So far, nobody has proven anything.

Do your best for the good of others, for as long as you can and you won't have to worry about your choices.

I Love this topic. Thank you.
[-] Posted by 13 Roses on 12/30/2008 12:34 PM
Greetings Mr. Trump,

Religion...Faith..

An excellent time to ponder these topics especially in light of the conversion of someone so near and dear to you.

From my earliest recollections I have always had a very strong faith, a belief in a supreme being - THE creator of the universe and all that is in it. There are as many names for the Creator as there are religions, though I choose to use the name "Creator" here only as a reference. I separate all that is faith from all that is religious. Man in his limited wisdom has tried to corral all that is infinite into a finite form of knowledge called religion.

In my opinion, the massive destruction of peoples and cultures in the name of religion is an ever present reminder that religious zeal is prompted by man's agendas and certainly not those of a Creator whose only motive is love.

I have been inside churches in your fair city that have enough riches (gold) to feed every man, woman and child in New York for the next century. And yet, when I walk the streets near those same churches, I see people who are hungry and destitute. Some might ask, "How can this be?" The truth has been written for centuries, ..."those with the faith of a mustard seed"... Mother Teresa is a perfect example. She gave from pure love and having nothing (monetarily) gave more than most organized religions combined.

I am not against organized religion per se. There are many organizations who give to the communities they serve, but mostly from individuals who have a heart of faith. The danger with organized religion happens when an individual gives up their heart of faith and surrenders to the collective "religion" as we are ever mindful of Hilter's so called religious persecutions and annilation of the Jews.

WE have witnessed this same kind of mindless destruction most notibly since 911. Young people who have surrendered their their own identity in favor of a religion that can never satisfy or sustain itself because it's only motive is destruction not love. Religion is finite, Faith is infinite.

Many blessings to you and your family throughout this new year!
[-] Posted by member1902843 on 01/02/2009 10:30 AM
Wow, it is so hard to understand the complexity of not only religion but, to throw in politics then economics you would confuse not only the masses but, the professors too. Having debates with something that evolves just like man is hard to contain in a one box theory of this is how it is and will be. Wrong ! ! ! ! ! All three of these Religion, Politics and, Economics live and grow with the people by the choices we make related to good or bad as a whole people no matter what your ethinic race maybe will be effceted! Hope to grasp something good out of this experience to take on my quest to help others in their's.

Thxxx For a Chance To Change
In The Box Thinking
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[-] Posted by The Anchor Guy on 01/05/2009 4:43 AM
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Americans and Religion?

"The Donald" You don’t say what religion you follow? Be it s it may, I do not profess to be part of any happy clapper clan.

You tie the subject to "Americans" and I am not an American, only a 3rd generation Englishman, trapped in a Godfors@ken country. Oh yes. I can use words like that when the Government in this country uses witch doctors to cleanse their buildings and the Police Force is fast becoming Gang related.

It’s time to get out of ZA.

Religion and Politics

Religion is now only moneymaking scheme. One can jump up and down in church, clap their hands and be joyful but at the end of the day, it means little if they have no faith.

Politics is also going by the wayside as much damage is being done globally because many people in the US are ignorant to the true facts of what’s going on.

Religion and politics should go hand in hand. Do you Americans really know what other nations think of you? Needless to say, you still feed them and give them astronomical funding all for simple hopes that they will change. You just don’t get it though; they will never change.

I am fortunate since I know Yahweh exists. Don’t ask me why he chose to show me and not others. I am still trying to figure out if I am scared or relieved and what to do about it.

What surprises me is that all you millions of Americans and only 4000 have taken an interest in what you write. Only 16 have actually given a response to a man who has the courage to "spell it out".

I really enjoy your topics.

Anchor Guy

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[-] Posted by member1869079 on 01/08/2009 5:57 AM
Dear Donald,

You are so interesting. Revealing this spiritual side of you is delightful! I really don't know what all of the hoopla is about religion and such and I have been an explorer since the early days of my life. I am grateful that God created me to appreciate the full spectrum of the creation. Just as there are numerous varieties of plants, mineral and animals, there are varieties of methods to recognize deity. It is inherent in humans. From the beginning of ages, before Christ, Bhudda, Mohammed, Abraham or any other religious discipline, humans sought some sort of worship. It is innate to our species. So in what form is really irrelevant.

It is interesting that the principles of religion such as love thy neighbor as you love yourself, does not enter into many conversations about the intellectual pursuits of understanding God. There is so much condemnation and judgement by people who have no clue about what God thinks. Did you know we have discovered 50,000 galaxies? and that's only what we know about, we have no idea how many more there are... how could we possibly fathom what God thinks.

My search has led me to explore forgiveness, understanding, and love, and that will take me a lifetime. I have no interest in what other people believe. If I come close to exercising fully any of the three above, I think I can look God in the face and smile a little bit when I die.
[-] Posted by member1906430 on 01/09/2009 6:09 AM
Dear Donald,
There is a difference in being religious and spiritual. To me religious is more of the format and actions taken and spiritual is being in the right frame of mind and in tune with mind, body, and soul. Many are religious in actions and traditions but are not in tune with their whole mind, body and soul. That is why so many fail our expectations of "being religious". I have been so disappointed in some of our leaders for having outward traditons but no real spiritual attributes. Of course, sometimes I fall short myself and no doubt disappoint someone out there watching me. But in the true case of courage, I admit my shortcomings, get up, dust myself off, and start again.
David's Wife, Carolyn
[-] Posted by Capialist on 01/14/2009 9:10 PM
If you do the research and study Christianity it's beginning is much clearer than it's present day copy. In the first century there were only one doctrine and that was the true gospel that Christ told his apostles "to go into all the world and preach". The interesting thing is they all spoke the same thing and there were no divisions among them. Man has done his best to dilute the word of God to the point where there is little to no credibility behind it.

If you want to portray religion like a business then man would be at fault for marketing it that way. God proclaimed "he was not the author of confusion" so the only logical conclusion is that only man would be the author of confusion.
[-] Posted by Allan2000 on 01/24/2009 2:11 AM
Mr. Trump, yes religion is somewhat politics.. "when pharaoh let the people go, god did not lead them on the road tnrough the philistine country, though that was shorter. For god said, if they face war, they might change their minds and return to egypt."
[-] Posted by member1912978 on 01/25/2009 10:12 PM
It will never cease to confound me how people can progress into the age of reason and still cling to religion for so many reasons.

Of course, religion has ALWAYS been inseparable from power. The prime example that most of us can relate to is the Catholic Church. It was part of the late Roman nation-state, and worship was spread to the lands conquered by the Romans, throughout most of Europe. Only later did other Christian sects evolve. Of course, the Anglican Church was founded by King Henry VIII primarily as a way to legally divorce, as well as political frustrations with Catholic lands, and similar popular currents in England. Continental European Protestantism developed almost simultaneously in the German lands....oddly enough, lands that had resisted Roman control and resisted Catholicism the most in the first place. Protestantism there, the idea of a "genuine" religion, is most closely related to paganism. A variety of religions, particularly Christian sects and Judaism, have been a part of U.S. history from its inception. That's why although we supposedly have religious "freedom," the freedom NOT to see life through the lens of formal religion, or even of God, does not exist. All people in power are expected to be some sort of Christians or at least (but less preferable to the mainstream), Jews.

The paganism was ancient. Why did paganism exist?? Well, worship of a higher power is indeed a human need. I have an infant, and was quite surprised to learn that babies have a sense of spookiness and wonder. To me, this is related to paganism, and the human need to worship a god or higher power. It makes evolutionary sense...how else would babies bother to pay attention, to learn, and to love...why else should they exist? The process of birth and death is, indeed, profound, but the more the human race learns, the more we should be aware how LITTLE we know!

So, in this way, political forces and human needs have always been and always will be intertwined. Religion that has developed out of a basic human need has been harnessed for millennia by those seeking money and power. How about L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer who bet a friend that he could start a religion and earn millions of dollars, and proceeded to follow through on it (built a modern religion based on an idea of extra terrestrials which he essentially admitted, to confidants, is false!)

Once religion becomes strictly codified, such as strict bible worship (remember...the Bible was written down and passed down by humans!) or even looking back to the static, stubborn Pharisees as portrayed in the New Testament, it represents stasis and unwillingness to change. Although I am an atheist, I consistently look to appreciate religion and what it offers humans with regard to ethics and outlets for spirituality...what it can say to people about how to lead their lives (although I prefer a secular humanist approach.)

As you know, Mr. Trump, since you are a skilled entrepreneur, if a person changes, they die...they will not make progress in money or life. Creativity in religion is greatly related to the ability to be innovative in other areas of life. Perhaps this is why people tend to skip around between different sects...sticking with one religion represents lack of creativity. If you stay in one place, you will get shot down, basically. People want change in religion just like they want progress in life. Religious institutions are far too static, and one of them alone will not satisfy the human need for worship.

If people stuck with one tradition, they would also be forced either to confront or ignore the fact that each religion itself is limited and false. People switch, thereby fulfilling spiritual needs and social norms, and networking, without having to confront ultimate truths (or untruths.) It is like politics. It would be interesting to compare term-limit societies to religious habits of autocratic societies/
[-] Posted by member1919544 on 02/07/2009 10:58 AM
Mr. Trump:
There is a forgotten Tenth Century Islamic Poet named Abu’l-Ala al Ma’arri, that once said "The inhabitants of the earth are of two sorts. Those with brains and no religion, and those with religion, but no brains." A believe in a supreme being a.k.a. God does not equate to a religion. A religion is the kidnapping of ethics and moral beliefs and the renunciation a of freedom and free will. These are the reason why one should never talk about religion. As for politics, goverment is a part of the original church when church and state were one. So politics and religions are basically the same thing.
[-] Posted by BlueOcean on 02/12/2009 4:52 PM
Darwin's birthday

Is it true that American schools are not allowed to teach the evolutional theory but instead teach a kind of religious idea called intelligent design?

The intention is probably a good one, aiming at giving us a feeling of security on our journey.

But the result is the opposite. In my eyes we are all evolving human beings and the failure to recognise this truth leads to a lot of confusion and disappointment about the world we live in.

Dishonesty in education is the first step to a world as described in the dystopia Fahrenheit 451.

Looking forward to receive your replys.
[-] Posted by member1896445 on 02/17/2009 11:34 PM
The bottom line is that religion is bondage and Christianity is freedom.
[-] Posted by Mantfombana on 03/10/2009 1:56 AM
Trumps' opinion of religion vs politics is sadly very TRUE.
This ever changing world has had people alter their belief systems to suit their dynamic world.
Many are now talking about religion vs faith vs reality vs fact
I've changed too....a couple of times......for many different reasons. But all in all I still can't deny the work that GOD keeps doing in my life. It's tangible.
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